Spanking as punishment strap. Possible consequences of punishing children with a belt Punishment with a belt

What is the right way to punish children? Up to what age and how much to physically punish the child? How to punish a child? How to interpret passages from the Bible that say that children should be beaten (with rods)?

The father of two daughters, theologian and teacher Andrei Dolganov shares the biblical and life principles of the correct upbringing of children, and also explains the Scriptures that speak of the punishment of children.

Andrey, let's start with biblical advice about raising children. What does the Bible say about this?

The Bible says that education should begin from the very first moment - the acceptance of a child as a gift from God.

Scripture says that parents should take an active role in the education of their children. “Teach a young man at the beginning of his path, and he will not deviate even when he is old,” says the Book of Proverbs.

Parents should have a common understanding of how to raise a child. They need to know what skills he needs to acquire during the various stages of establishing him as a person. To teach a child to behave correctly at home, at a party, on the street, how to politely treat parents, elders, relatives.

Proper education begins from the moment when future mom finds out about her pregnancy. And at this moment, the parent and all relatives should accept this child and expect him with love.

If we talk about Proverbs, then the following is written there: “Whoever spares his rod, he hates his son, and whoever loves, he punishes him from childhood.”

This is a very important point, because education and punishment go together. They cannot be confused with each other.

Punishment is not education. Parenting is an understanding of the correct moral principles that parents want to instill in their child. And also - the creation of a physical, mental and spiritual safe zone for the child. And parents must take punishment to bring the child back to this safe zone if he starts to violate the boundaries, which can lead to physical injury or to the fact that he learns something wrong.

Punishment is not education. Parenting is an understanding of the correct moral principles that parents want to instill in their child.

Mom somehow punished me. Honestly, I don't remember why. But it was an army belt - I received it normally, and at some point a badge flew off from it and cut me in the head. I didn’t even see the blood, but I remember how scared my mother was. I don't think I ever saw the belt again.

I think your mother did not cope with anger, did not calculate the strength. Therefore, I would not recommend punishing with army belts. There is an understanding - a rod, such a thin twig. She won't do much harm.

It's good that you started talking about what parents should do. Here you have two daughters - did you have to punish them physically?

Yes, it was necessary, as the wise Solomon said: “There is a time for everything, and a time for every thing under heaven.” Our daughter was desired from the very beginning. We prayed for her, blessed her, but when, for example, she behaved provocatively in a store or on the street, and when words and persuasion no longer worked, then, of course, we had to punish her physically.

We had a special plastic ruler that I used. But that was only on occasions when she didn't listen to the warnings.

For example, we had one case. My family and I were going to go to the store - me, my wife and Anastasia.

Tell me, how old was she?

She must have been three years old. And I perfectly understood that when she was in public, she would want to expand her boundaries of freedom, she would want to manipulate us in order to get more. Realizing this, I talked to her in advance, even when we were at home.

I squatted opposite - eye to eye - and said: “Anastasia, we will go to the store now, but if you behave badly, I, like dad, will punish you. And public opinion will not influence me, because your upbringing is much more important to me. You understood?" She shook her head. I say: "Look - I take the ruler with me."

We go to the central store, she starts behaving very badly - she screams, demands to buy something. I calmly took her by the hand, led her out of the store, sat down again so that my eyes looked into her eyes and said: “Anastasia, did I warn you that if you behave badly, I will punish you?” She nodded. “Therefore, you receive punishment for your disobedience,” I took the ruler and lightly slapped her on the pope.

On the street, among people?

Yes. And at that moment a pregnant girl who smoked approached us and began to resent that I was raising my child incorrectly. What struck me was my daughter's reaction. She turned to her, looked menacingly and waved her hand: “Aunt, go away!” That is, she began to protect our family values.

Physical punishment lasted up to about five years, after which I stopped punishing my daughters like that.

Punishment must be causal. It must follow wrong behavior, be driven by it.

At what age did you start?

Since then, when the child began to understand and listen to warnings that his behavior is now wrong, and this can lead to serious consequences.

Andrew, I have two small children. I feel sorry for beating them, is it possible to somehow educate them without physical punishment?

I don't think that will work. While the child is small, he does not understand the instructions, he still cannot logically compare his act and the consequences to which this may lead.

When a three-year-old daughter reaches into the socket with two fingers, I won’t stop her with the words: “You know, electricity“It hurts a lot, it can hit you very hard or even kill you.” At this point, you just physically punish the child, and he has a causal relationship: "I should not climb there, because it is very dangerous and physical punishment may follow."

The next moment is when the child begins to emotionally unwind, and at that moment he can neither listen nor understand anything. Then for him nervous system physical punishment would be better. It will be like a cold shower - he will cry a little, but he will come to his senses and immediately calm down.

Punishment must be causal. It must follow wrong behavior, be driven by it.

But how to punish so as not to harm the child?

In my youngest daughter's class, there were kids running around whose reaction I saw how they were being punished at home. If a child hides from an outstretched hand, it means that he gets cuffs on the back of the head, and if a child clings to his arm, I already understood that he was being punished normally.

Therefore, for punishment to be some kind of subject. The Bible wisely says that you need to beat with rods. A rod is a thin stick that is used to hit a soft spot. It gives a painful effect, but is not able to deeply affect the tissues.

In no case should you punish with a hand, under any circumstances! The hand should be associated with protection, parental affection, tenderness, provision and help.

As a child, my daughter was afraid of the ruler, not my hand. She even hid it, and I had to look for it. Or somehow she took this ruler and began to threaten me, showing that now she has power and authority over dad. I laughed, of course, took the ruler and explained that if she hides this one, then I will buy another one.

And the next very important point - you can never punish in anger. In anger, it is possible to cross the child's pain threshold and hit so hard that he will then have physical problems.

Punishment must be causal. It must follow wrong behavior, be driven by it. It is impossible to postpone punishments for infringements for a long time. This should be as soon as possible so that the child does not forget.

And the next important point - having punished the child, it is immediately necessary to accept it. After I punished my daughters, I immediately hugged them, pressed them to me and spoke in my ear in a calm voice: “Dad loves you, that’s why he punishes you. If dad didn't love you, he would be indifferent to your behavior. And I'm not indifferent, because I want the best for you.

What to do if you could not restrain yourself and punished the child in anger? Apologize? Or not? And if so, then how?

We said that children are a gift from God. Therefore, from early childhood, we must value them as individuals, at the same time, children must understand that we are also people and can make mistakes. Therefore, humility is that in front of a child you are ready to admit a mistake and ask for forgiveness.

There were several cases in my family when I could not cope and punished in anger, shouted, maybe a lot. Then I then asked for forgiveness from my daughters. I just leaned to make eye-to-eye contact and asked: “Anastasia, forgive dad, dad was wrong.” She smiled, kissed, hugged me and said: "Daddy, everything is fine."

Scripture says that parents should take an active role in the education of their children.

Did it happen that the child was not to blame, and you punished?

There might have been a crack. We did not check which of them messed up at home, and I asked both the youngest and the eldest daughter for forgiveness.

My mother, when she wanted to apologize, she asked for forgiveness in some way - she would either cook food or buy something, but without words. Is it normal to do this or is it still necessary to say?

I think we still need to speak, because the word shows our humility before the child. If the parent simply prepares food, then this is a kind of payoff from his act, and the child does not have a causal relationship. And he must clearly understand that the right deed is followed by approval, encouragement and blessing in his life, and the wrong is followed by punishment.

If the parents made a mistake, it is necessary to speak about it out loud so that the child realizes that we can also make mistakes, but through these words they feel respect for themselves as a person.

Even when my child was 2-3 years old, I knelt in front of him to look into his eyes, thereby respecting him as a person. There were cases when the daughter rested her hands on her hips. I told her: "Put your hands away, you're still small, stand like that."

And can God punish parents for the wrong upbringing of children?

Of course, because children are a gift that God gives. And children come to the family for a while.

The child must clearly understand that the right deed is followed by approval, encouragement and blessing in his life, and the wrong is followed by punishment.

As a father, I understand God's hierarchy of power, which the Apostle Paul writes about: “Christ is the head of every husband, and the husband is the head of the wife,” and then dad and mom are the head of the children. I educate them properly, discipline them properly when necessary, and trust God that when I am old and unable to work, my daughters will repay me and take care of me.

The punishment for parents who do not properly raise their children is that their children may not care for them in their old age. Such punishment may be because God's principle of raising children is violated.

Therefore, our best investment in the future is the right education of our children. We need to take care of their physical health, education and their spiritual condition.

All children are different. What can you advise parents whose children are very energetic and naughty?

First of all, it is important to spend more time together in active games and play sports. Unfortunately, many parents concentrate on the satisfaction of physical and intellectual needs and spend little time in joint games with their children. But it is in the joint occupation of games or hobbies that emotional attachment arises. Therefore, if the children behave badly, it is better to go play football or volleyball with them, and when they run out, go home and calmly talk about some other things.

Our best investment in the future is the right education of our children. We need to take care of their physical health, education and their spiritual condition.

And if parents have different views on education and there is no common position?

Mom and dad should see unity in matters of education and punishment.

If the wife punishes our children, I simply say: “Mom is right, she must be obeyed,” but if I punish the children, then the wife says to the children: “Dad is right.”

But there is a problem when, say, dad punished, and the children immediately run to mom. And she says: “Oh, dad is bad, but mom is so good!” Children will then begin to manipulate, there will be no integrity in education. Children will then be very difficult to bring to sincere conversations, they will look for ways to expand their boundaries - for example, in order to come home late or start smoking cigarettes.

Have you and your wife agreed to support each other in this matter?

Of course, from the very beginning of our life together When we were still expecting children in our family, we agreed that we would have a common understanding in matters of upbringing, and none of us would violate the authority of a parent in the eyes of children.

What do you do in situations where, for example, one of you has punished a child, but the other parent does not know this? Do you talk about it afterwards?

We usually communicate this to each other. For example, if I work with children all day, then I briefly tell my wife how they behaved. At first alone, then in the presence of children, so that they see as little disagreement as possible between father and mother in matters of upbringing.

I also wanted to say thatThere is different kinds punishment. The first one is commentwhen we try to stop the child with words, say that his behavior is wrong, and he should stop. If that doesn't help -warningwhen we report that because of their behavior the child will be deprived of certain pleasures - sweets, or some kind of walk. After we deprive the childmobility. You can put him on a chair, or put him in a corner. When he stands in the corner, his attention is not occupied by toys, cartoons, and he has time to change his mind, to think about his behavior. And the last moment -physical punishment.

An important point - the punishment should be commensurate with the misconduct. The more the offense can harm the child or family, the stronger the punishment should be. Then the child is fixed understanding that this can not be done.

It is necessary that children see as little as possible disagreements between father and mother in matters of upbringing.

What is the most important principle in education?

It all starts with the understanding that a child is a gift from God, that we must accept it with love, as a gift.

We need to pray for the children and bless them. The Bible says that little children were brought to Jesus, He laid hands on them and blessed them. This principle works in my family because I believe in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. Therefore, I bless my children, pray for them every day, and when I go on a business trip or see them off to school, I be sure to ask God to keep them from all evil.

Spanking with a belt

Spanking is an effective and efficient method in BDSM punishment. Actually, you can just flog for your own pleasure or according to the scenario of the thematic session, but there is one psychological nuance! For many people, punishment is associated with spanking with a belt on the buttocks since childhood. Everyone knows from childhood that the word "belt" means the belt itself to support the pants and directly flogging them on the fifth point, in case of fault. And even if no one has ever whipped you, then all the same, from the stories of other people, this association has already been sitting in you from a young age.

In addition, the device has other options for use. For example, they can be used to bind hands and feet, or used as a leash. The undoubted advantage of the belt is that the Top always has it at hand, i.e. in trousers. Which can be useful if you feel like having a small session outside the home.

There is no doubt that the Dominant gets pleasure from spanking and punishing the girl with a belt, and the Lower one completely survives an orgasm, but in this case I want to present precisely the aesthetics of punishment with this device, and not spanking followed by a subspace.

When choosing an accessory, taking into account the specifics of its use, it should be borne in mind that the strap should not be made of thick leather (any denim biker options are not suitable), it should not be rigid, it should not have metal rivets and other accessories. The belt should be soft, not very wide, classic and without sharp inserts, with a small buckle (so as not to interfere), not 3 to 5 cm wide. A narrow belt causes more intense pain. Wide inconvenient to work.

Given the above psychological aspects of the application, the device should not be used too often. And it is better in moments associated with punishment. Spanking is carried out with a device folded in half, quite strongly. At the same time, hitting with a badge is unacceptable - I don’t think that a bruised girl’s butt is a pleasant sight. In a word, in the hands of a real master, this is a good and pleasant device.

To flog the priests with a belt, it is better to wrap it doubled over a fist, holding the buckle in your hand, strike with a free flexible part 20-30 cm long.

A true subwoofer is always ready to bring a strap in her teeth to the Owner, faithfully looking into her eyes, wagging her ass and whining impatiently in anticipation of severe punishment.

Rod

The right House should always have in its arsenal such an attribute of a classic spanking as a rod. This device is a flexible and thin rods of trees (shrubs), collected in a bundle, or used singly. Previously, they were widely used for corporal punishment in everyday life, in courts, in educational institutions. Nowadays, they are adopted by the BDSM community.

We rightly believe that the rod is an easy-to-use and environmentally friendly, disposable device. It's hygienic. They combine flexibility and toughness. If they are selected and used wisely, then in working with the bottom girl, you can simultaneously deliver significant pain without causing any harmful effects for the body. Yes, traces of course remain, but they quickly pass if you don’t try hard in blows.

By the way, there is an opinion that whipping on the buttocks with rods also has a healing effect ... We cannot confirm or deny this. But, at least, we know for sure that the use of this device in BDSM has a strong educational and psychological effect on the lower girl. In addition, if a girl is a masochist, then whipping her buttocks with rods will be simply pleasant for her.

There are different rods for punishment: walnut, willow, mountain ash, birch, etc. We prefer:

walnut - for stronger effects

birch and willow - for the weaker ones.

In addition, under the conditions middle lane there is no problem to collect the right amount of vicious material good quality and completely free. Which tree to choose for you - try to experiment with different ones and stop at the best, depending on your tasks and the degree of impact.

The ideal rods are cut in the spring while they are damp and flexible. In appearance, they are straight, long (up to 2.5 meters) and even rods. They have sufficient strength and weight, as well as other necessary qualities for a proper and good whipping of a bare buttocks. Basically, you don't even need to soak them.

An important step in preparing for punishment is the processing of cut rods. To maintain flexibility, it is better to use freshly cut branches. Then the branches dry quickly, so it is customary to soak them. By drawing in water, they become more flexible and heavy.

By the way, if you are going to the forest for rods, know that it is better to choose the “golden mean” of the rod - cutting off the base and top, and leaving the device about 1 m long. At the tip, the rod usually has about 2-3 mm. For a dozen of these classic rods, you should stock up on a couple or three with 5-6 mm at the tip, so to speak, for the most obstinate slaves, whose behavior may cause you serious concern.

It has been empirically established that for the Top, the optimal length of the rod is the distance from his (her) neck to the fingertips outstretched hand. This length contributes to the most virtuoso and efficient use.

Despite the fact that the branches seem to be a very harmless device, whipping can be bloody, depending on how much effort you put in and how much time you spend. But in any case, it will be superficial, and the device itself will act as a limiter of excessive exposure - it will simply break. The main thing when choosing not to forget about the optimal diameter of the rod.

Depending on the task or the degree of fault of the lower rod, you can punish

direct springy wrist strike,

rigidly with a pull (in this case, traces are guaranteed).

Undoubtedly positive quality device is that you can quite easily calculate the force and direction of the blow.

When spanking, pace is important. The pain felt by the lower girl does not decrease over time after the blow, but rather increases in the range of 15-30 seconds following the blow. Therefore, it is better to pause between beats.

You can act as single rods, or tied into a bundle of 3-6 pieces. If the rods are very thin, you can collect up to 15 pieces in a bundle.

Note also that if you want to punish the bottom as efficiently as possible, then the best option for this - soaked rods with completely peeled skin. They are the most painful!

It is also considered effective practice in flogging with the alternate use of twigs from different breeds wood.

How to flog with rods and a belt correctly and safely

Let's try to summarize the information we have on such an important issue as punishment with rods and a belt:

1. Any percussive device used for spanking and punishment requires practice. If you are a beginner, practice hitting an inanimate object.

2. If you practice spanking regularly, then the skin becomes physically resistant to shock, less prone to rupture of capillaries. And your devices "soften".

3. Before whipping the priests with rods or a belt, if you have a kind of ritual, it is advisable for a girl to take a hot bath or shower, relax as much as possible.

4. The most gentle pose - on the lap of the Owner (it is difficult for him to swing strongly). The most painful - standing bent over clasping his knees (when the skin is stretched, sensitivity to pain increases).

5. The inner thighs are the most painful part of the body to hit. However, this does not mean that it should not be hit.

6. The safest area for spanking is the convex surface of the buttocks, the top of the thighs. The outer side of the thighs, sides are prone to bruising.

7. Blows are delivered measuredly. The strength, pace, amplitude and magnitude of the swing increase gradually. If you exclusively play role-playing games and a light erotic spanking is required without visible marks, only with reddening of the skin - do not strike with a full swing and measure the effort. It’s easier to work in general with an “elbow swing” when the shoulder joint is relatively immobile. It is also necessary to ensure that the belt does not get ribbed.

8. If after spanking you have marks or bruises, use special preparations to treat them. (for example, troxevasin)

9. For the first flogging, choose soft leather products (if it is a belt) and thinner rods.

10. It is necessary to know the sense of proportion - it is better to flog ten times during the day than once, but strongly and for a long time.

11. It usually takes about 30 minutes to spank women and girls in the buttocks with a belt or a rod.

12. If you are just starting to use such practices, take the time to find the optimal posture, find out which places it has the most sensitive and resistant to shock, calculate the required impact force so that the first experience does not discourage the desire to repeat.

In general, in order to properly fill the girl's ass with rods or a belt, you must first fill your hand.

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Spanking like punishment belt

Jack: The belt always hung in the kitchen where I was flogged. It was not used as an element of clothing.

Roma: belt hanging on the chair

mickey: This is not a belt in the usual sense, but the object of punishment was always in one place.

ROMA BAGIEV: located near the place of punishment, well, dad could take another belt, it all depends on the punishment, or is it planned in advance, or dad decided recently to use a rod, he is an opponent to use

Potap: the belt always hung on a chair in my room, they used it only for spanking, in special cases my father used a wide soldier's belt.

Glory: belt. Once dad carved some kind of wire.

Muddy Jan: Mickey writes: ]This is not a belt in the usual sense, but the object of punishment was always in one place. And what was that object? Potap writes: the belt always hung on a chair in my room, they used it only for flogging, in special cases my father used a wide soldier's belt .. And what special cases they were.

Potap: The belt always hung on a chair in my room - it was used only for punishment. In special cases, dad took a wide sodatsky.

Alex: I bring it myself - what they say

MaximSr: The spanking was not "planned". She rarely got a job and only for special offenses such as lying. Therefore, there was no special, “honorable” place for the belt. It hung in the closet along with other belts and belts.

blackhawk: I usually bring a belt from the wardrobe myself, there is a chance to choose at least not the hardest one, sometimes my mother gets the belt - it's much worse

oleg zadorkin: brings grandma

amber: hang on the wall

Danya: dad takes off his belt or takes it from a shelf

oleg zadorkin: both for the celebration of a festive tablecloth, and for spanking a separate belt, for many fathers, it is not the punishment of their offspring that is important, but the words spoken, so that the belt would now be brought from the fofaner

lady_oksana: Oleg Zadorkin writes: for many fathers, it is not the non-pronunciation of their offspring that is important, but the words spoken so that a belt would now be brought from the fofaner I understood correctly: it is not the result that matters. what about the process?

oleg zadorkin: for some fathers, saying these words has more meaning and grandeur than punishments and the need for spanking

lady_oksana: Oleg Zadorkin writes: for some fathers, saying these words has more meaning and grandeur It looks like I understand everything correctly 🙂

Pavel: A word can kill. But stroke with a terrible blow to the head -?

oleg zadorkin: I beg your pardon, I wanted to express myself, screaming loudly, as if stroking the head gently

Den: An army belt taken from the closet specifically for spanking. Or my uncle took off his jeans (but he almost did not differ from the army one).

antoinetta: A thin leather belt, kept in my closet. At the dacha I received a rod, they didn’t carry a belt with them. Once I was flogged with a braided belt, there was no other. Very painful.

Pavka: The father himself brings a belt or skipping ropes, they lie in the closet. And in the summer in the country he cuts the rods from the willow bush just before the flogging, and at this time I have to lower my pants and lie down.

: usually the father himself brings a belt or rope,

fox: The one who flogged brought

Mermaid Anya: I cut the rod myself and the subject of punishment - I also bring it myself, what they say.

Christina: No experience. But the belt, it's kind of bonal.

Natasha: The belt is still hanging on the wall above the sofa in my room. So you don't have to go far for it. And a rolling pin, but this is rare, my mother brought it herself.

Natasha: The belt is still hanging on the wall above the sofa in my room. So you don't have to go far for it. And a rolling pin, but this is rare, my mother brought it herself. And dad always flogged with a belt.

Marina: Belt only. Or dad got out of his trousers, or mother from the closet. A thin belt hurts more, and the traces didn’t go away for a long time, and dad also tore mercilessly with a wide one, but still not as much as it hurts from a thin one.

pendant: the rope hung in the parent's bedroom near the stove, on a rope, if necessary, my mother took it, and the belt in different ways, when my mother pulled it out of my trousers, if my belt was used, when she took it out of the wardrobe. the cord was usually attached to the tape recorder and mother disconnected it before the spanking.

Arina: mom brings it herself

Oksana: With a narrow belt, it hangs on a hanger. I bring it myself, if only they don’t add it. They flog very hard, to scars. I had circles before my eyes, I wanted to climb the wall, and he flogged and flogged. Now I'm afraid of the ropes, horror, and my mother warned that from now on they would definitely flog me with her.

Artemka: Mom smacks with a belt, step sister thrashed, stepfather doesn’t touch with a finger

Mika: My grandfather had a belt on his belt. The wire was unfastened from the equipment. He often carried a skaklka with him. Nettle so go out and kick, and I kicked. It was so said go to the cabinet with belts, take the belt. I took a more non-bitting so for this, at my 7 years old, another 20 blows, plus yes, and for screaming +10

Maxoid: The “educational” belt lay on a shelf in the closet, and so did the rod, and tried the wires

Muddy Jan: Maxoid writes: The “educational” belt was lying on a shelf in the closet, as well as a rod, and I tried the wires And for what the belt relied for what the rod and for what he received the wire

Victor#1: A soldier's belt hung in the corridor. My father always brought it.

Muddy Jan: Victor #1 writes: A soldier's belt hung in the corridor That is, only a belt was used for your punishment.

Tarelkin: they always flog me only with a belt, once they flogged me with rods

Denis: Menja sekut rozgoj po goloj spine gotovjat rozgu pered samoj porkoj. Denis 17 let.

Lech: Flogged mostly with a belt. Most often, I took it out of the closet and carried it to my dad. Sometimes dad took his belt out of his trousers. And several times they flogged me with a skipping rope and a wire. Well, it's only in extreme cases. And the wife told me that she often received a dog leash.

Bus driver: Flogged only with an army belt!

Matvey14: My father usually flogs me with a belt. The normal belt he currently wears. There is no special belt for punishment. Several times the truth was a wide soldier's belt. Sometimes I get whips from my grandfather, but this is rarely very.

Ruslan from Donetsk: There was a belt hanging in the closet. The rods were in the kitchen, behind the sink, but they were rarely used.

Alex710: Grandfather himself took out a belt or “two-tail” from the closet, except for two cases when I was flogged with my own belt (he had a good buckle), which I myself took out of shorts when, being alone at home, I “did things” and out of shame I prepared everything for punishment (see the topic of spanking on request). And so my “duties” included pulling down my pants, shorts and lying down. Never forced children to bring a belt. In my opinion, it is enough that they themselves exposed their ass and lay down for punishment. Not everyone is capable of this either.

Alex710: And I saw a belt hanging in the "terrible corner" from a classmate. In my opinion, it's terrible to stand in the corner and see a belt in front of your very nose, which may or may not flog you. No wonder the boy was a coward.

Denis: Mudryj i drevnij Solomon skazal: rozga prednazdnachena dlja spiny neponimajuschego. A nash, sovremennyj chelovek, dobavil k etomu spisku, skakalku, provod, shnur, i drugoe. I porjat ne toljko po spine, or po zadnice, no i po zhivotu i po drugim chastjam tela. Neuzheli glupostj cheloveka, ne imeet predela?

Alex710: Denis writes: Mudryj i drevnij Solomon skazal: rozga prednazdnachena dlja spiny neponimajuschego. A nash, sovremennyj chelovek, dobavil k etomu spisku, skakalku, provod, shnur, i drugoe. I porjat ne toljko po spine, or po zadnice, no i po zhivotu i po drugim chastjam tela. Neuzheli glupostj cheloveka, ne imeet predela? King Solomon, of course, was wise. This was recognized even by his enemies. But he also stumbled in life. What honestly wrote in the Bible. And the rod was intended specifically for the “uncomprehending”, and not the notorious criminal. And the criminals were punished with terrible whips with knots, woven bones and metal balls, and then only on the back and lower. And as for jump ropes, wires, etc. , then in our time they are sometimes intended, alas, not for criminals. namely, “not understanding” and this, of course, is excessive cruelty. A rod or belt is enough. As for spanking in the stomach, this is generally savagery worse than anyone ancient. You can just cripple a person.

einars A: I don't understand it. I remember well how it was for me and what I felt. I was taken to my room. No one said what would happen, but I already understood it. On the way, the father took the rods, which were usually prepared and stood on the closet. Then there was a short question about what had been done and an order to drop his pants. I automatically touched the top of my pants, but more to hold than to pull down. And, of course: “I won’t do it again. Sorry. No need. etc." Then they took off my pants, put me over my knee or on the bed, and the process began. I tried to cover with my palms, turning them against the rod and trying to get the rod as far away from the priests as possible. My only thought was that it would end soon. Before the start of the flogging, the thought would have been superfluous to somehow delay, or at least delay time. Any action aimed at getting a spanking would be unnatural. I got whipped, but they didn't break me. I had the right to not want, which is very important. When I screwed up. I tried to follow the same principle. True, there have been some changes. If you need to find out some details, this can be done right before the spanking. When the ass is already cooked and the rod is in hand, it's time to ask questions. If the child knows that for any attempt to lie or whistle from the answer there will be a whistle of a rod, then the answers will be reliable.

Alex710:inars writes: I tried to cover with my palms, Doesn't the rod hurt on the hands? einars writes: The only thought was if it would end soon So the sooner it starts, the sooner it ends. And so there will be an "additive". einars writes: I got whipped, but they didn't break me The one who repents and understands that he deserved the punishment, rather than the broken one, can bring the “instrument” for punishment. einars writes: If you need to find out some details, this can be done right before the spanking. When the ass is already cooked and the rod is in hand, it's time to ask questions. If the child knows that for any attempt to lie or whistle from the answer there will be a whistle of a rod, then the answers will be reliable. And if it turns out that already lying with a bare booty is not guilty? Then what, to say: "get dressed" ?. No, you need to find out the details earlier, and not when the child has already prepared. And it resembles psychological torture, when people were put against the wall and shot above their heads. This is where it can break down.

einars: 1. The child has the right not to want. He has the right to hope that a miracle will happen. He may hope to be forgiven. Repentance is just for that. 2. In this way, details and other actions can be clarified, and not the fact itself, is it necessary. The presumption of innocence is not only for the rod, but also for suspicion, as far as possible. The child must be sure that at least at home for no reason he will not be accused of anything. If he expresses suspicions, then he knows the reason.

Alex710:inars writes: The child has the right not to want. He has the right to hope that a miracle will happen. He may hope to be forgiven. Repentance is just for that. It is unlikely that a miracle will happen from resistance. Rather, on the contrary, he will receive more. einars writes: The presumption of innocence is not only for the rod, but also for suspicion, as far as possible. The child must be sure that at least at home for no reason he will not be accused of anything. If he expresses suspicions, then he knows the reason. Agree. But the "word for defense" should come before taking off your pants.

einars: 1. And it just depends on us whether there will be supplements and for what. I don’t need to be listened to just because I can give a butt. My requirements are always justified and explained. If I am forced to take rods, then I will explain this. I do not dispute the opinion that smacking is wrong, but enticing has its own arguments why I do this in a particular case. The child has the right to believe that spanking is the wrong means. Forcing him to do something for his own spanking is to challenge his right to an opinion. I don't need a slave, I need to raise a free-thinking person. Maybe this will not turn his mind back, but still I don’t need it. I'll take off my pants and put it on my knee myself. And I will hold my hands and legs. It's not that hard, why didn't my parents manage it? 2. I agree. Never claimed otherwise.

Alex710:inars writes: I don’t need to be listened to just because I can give a butt. My requirements are always justified and explained. If I am forced to take rods, then I will explain this. I do not dispute the opinion that smacking is wrong, but enticing has its own arguments why I do this in a particular case. The child has the right to believe that spanking is the wrong means. Forcing him to do something for his own spanking is to challenge his right to an opinion. I don't need a slave, I need to raise a free-thinking person I agree with almost everything. It still seems to me that a child should be afraid not of the spanking itself, but of the actions that can lead to it. Bringing the belt to the child himself, of course, is not at all necessary, but he must realize that the punishment is well-deserved, and not just because they wanted to beat him. And with the realization, it’s quite possible to prepare yourself (to lie down and expose your ass without resistance). But compel under threat additional punishment also not possible.

Svetka Bekky: Mom brought.

Nikita-80: Dad always brought the belt himself or took it off his trousers. Once he asked me for a belt for his brother. To my remark: “You have your own dressed,” he quietly answered: “No, it hurts” (my brother was about 5, so, wanted to intimidate).

Monya: Dad took off his trousers or brought from the closet. Mostly with a wide belt. The whipping is very strong and painful.

Monya: Usually flogged with a regular belt that he is currently wearing.

SS: Monya wrote: Dad took off his trousers or brought from the closet. Mostly with a wide belt. The whipping is very strong and painful. write here, and common sense suggests that a wide belt is difficult to flog painfully.

Svetka Bekky: Monya wrote: Mostly with a wide belt. The whipping is very strong and painful. SS writes: they write here, and common sense suggests that it is difficult to flog sick with a wide belt It will hurt, of course. But compared to the narrow one, as my childhood friend Igorek would say: "complete nonsense."

Svetka Bekky: Monya wrote: Usually he flogs with the usual belt that he is currently wearing. Does he walk around in trousers with a belt? Most of the house in "training shoes" walks.

Monya: Not wide, but regular. At home I went in "training shoes". But if he came home from work and immediately found out what he had done, he removed the belt from his trousers, and if he found out later, he took it from the closet.

Selena: Monya wrote: Mostly with a wide belt. Monya! Everyone knows that a thin strap beats more painfully, and a skipping rope is even more painful! So you don't get the hardest option. Although I know when they beat me with a dress brush, the pain was also not so sharp in the process. But she got up, and did not feel her ass. And then the pain did not go away for a long time and seemed to be concentrated in the depths of the buttocks. Any spanking is painful.

Oksana: the rubber rope hurts the most

Svetka Bekky: Selena writes: Everyone knows that a thin strap beats more painfully, and a skipping rope is even more painful! So you don't get the hardest option. oksana wrote: the most painful rubber jump rope Girls "know a lot". "Our".

zhivago: Mermaid-Anya privet

Alex710: zhivago wrote: Mermaid-Anna privet Eh you to whom? There are no mermaids to be seen here.

Kaori: The belts were always in the same place - hung in the closet. When it was necessary, they simply got out of there.

Lola25: He took off his trousers or brought a belt from the closet.

katya: Removed from trousers or brought from the closet

Nikita-80 katya wrote: Taken off trousers or brought from the closet Well, just as copied from the previous post. Who brought it? How did you shoot - slowly or pulled off? And the closet was in the same room or in another, also an exciting moment. It's one thing when you hear the belt buckle ringing against the closet door, and another thing when the belt "appears" in the room unexpectedly in a punishing hand.

katya: If he took off his trousers, then he pulled them off. And if from the closet, then he went to another room and took from the closet.

uip: Ruslan from Donetsk writes: Rods were in the kitchen, behind the sink, but they were rarely used. And where were the rods harvested in urban conditions?

Kate: Well, my father was in the military, there were enough belts in the house - both military and civilian, and there was a harness. So when you flogged an officer, it didn’t hurt so much, but with a belt. Well, narrow belts are also very painful .. Either he took them off his trousers or got them out of the closet.

luna58: The father or mother removes the belt from the jeans, which usually hang in the closet.

Carlson: He took his belt out of his trousers or took a dog leash from the hallway, wicker, leather and very long. With a loop at the end. That hurt them a lot. And there was no gradation - for this is a belt, for this a leash. What was closer and then took.

Nadya2550: Father takes off his trousers.

Irina-1960: The father himself took out the belt from the closet, such an old army one, and when he switched to rods, he also brought the tub from the closet.

Woe onion: And I already wrote that only my mother punished me, and even then humanely, with a belt through my pants. And that was painful. I got acquainted with real rods and jump ropes later, when I played with my wife, let's say, in the Cossack robbers. I am naturally a robber, my wife is a Cossack, but what does a Cossack do when he meets a robber? (Tsapki not count, it's vice versa). Right. Punishes. It usually happened in the village, in a log house almost a meter thick. so scream all you want, from real devices. Well, what can I say, it's so painful that I don't even understand how children endure. But I'm not talking about that now. The rod is a charm, of course, but not for me, I'm afraid like fire. Jumps are different. There is a new sample, some kind of soft synthetic cut, thin, even I sometimes endured. Old? harder rubber, real, pain at the level of the rod. But I have some old thickened jump ropes. I highly recommend it, once I received it and hid it from my wife as a device incompatible with life. But in general, on my profile picture, my photo is still at a tender age, well, how can such a sweetheart be so painful? By the way, where is the avatar?

Juliana: Woe onion writes: Well, what can I say, it's so painful that I don't even understand how children endure. Onion grief, children have no choice.

Woe onion Juliana writes: children have no choice. That's for sure. It is a pity that not all parents understand that raising a child does not have to be spanked.

Juliana: Woe onion writes: It is a pity that not all parents understand that raising a child does not have to be spanked. Woe is onion, because this is nowhere taught how to properly raise children.

terry Juliana writes: this is nowhere taught how to properly raise children.. How to properly spank children.

Juliana:terry wrote: .how to spank children correctly. terry, and you also need to be able to smack correctly.

terry Juliana writes: you also need to be able to smack correctly I do not know. You see better 🙂

Juliana:terry wrote: You see better 🙂 Yes, terry, I know better from the top and bottom.

terry Juliana writes: I know better Julia, I have already told you many times: you finally choose one thing. How can you be both above and below? We have to decide.

Woe onion Juliana writes: Yes, terry, I know better from the top and bottom. Yulianochka, this can only mean one thing, that you are not in the subject, but the subject is in you.

Juliana: Woe onion writes: Yulianochka, this can only mean one thing, that you are not in the subject, but the subject is in you. Onion grief, it's all the same ... like on the forehead, on the forehead, everything is one.

Ttt: the belt is usually dad, and after his disappearance, the neighbor was pulled out of his trousers and kept ready, folded in half, while I was getting drunk.

nika50: Father brought from the closet or took off his trousers.

Jury Juliana writes: children have no choice. Children have a choice - to behave as their parents require. Well, if you don’t always want it, then there is no choice, be patient.

Juliana Jury writes: Children have a choice - to behave as their parents demand. Jury, parents, unfortunately, still have a bad mood.

Jury Juliana writes: Parents, unfortunately, still have a bad mood. Well, you yourself said that you flogged only for the cause (in their opinion), and did not beat you simply because of a bad mood. The severity of the punishment depended on the mood, as I understand it. For triples, deuces were always flogged, but how hard it hit, it really depended on a lot of circumstances, including mood. But the choice was yours - to study and do homework so that there were no triples or twos

Juliana Jury writes: The severity of the punishment depended on the mood, Jury, and strictness too. And it also happens that you get almost nothing. Just because the mood is bad, and you asked your parents something.

Jury Juliana writes: Just because the mood is bad, and you asked your parents something. And here you don’t need to ask such inappropriate questions, for which you can immediately get a bum!

Juliana Jury writes: And here you don’t need to ask such inappropriate questions, for which you can immediately get a bum! Jury, you never know in advance what you will get and what you won't.

Jury Juliana writes: so you never know in advance what you will get and what you won't. Oh, well, this time I really don’t believe it. Surely these were some kind of “tricky” questions, with some kind of subtext, or maybe a question about resolving something known in advance that is not permissible. 🙂 But you still wanted to hear the answer “no!” again, and still continue this conversation, why not, and when it will be possible, and why Mashka, Sasha can, but I can’t?

Juliana Jury writes: Surely these were some kind of "tricky" questions, with some kind of subtext, Jury, there were quite normal questions, expressions of one's opinion, to which the answer was: I see, are you too smart with us?

Jury Juliana writes: quite normal questions, expressions of one's opinion Here you go! That's what I said that they were not quite such harmless questions, for which you could get a pope. And this opinion expressed in the question was certainly different from the opinion of the parents. And, most likely, you already knew that this is so.

Juliana Jury writes: You probably knew beforehand that this is the case. Well I was smart beyond my years

Jury Juliana writes: I was smart beyond my years I already knew about it

Juliana Jury writes: I already knew about it Is it true? And how long?

Jury Juliana writes: Is it true? And how long? Well, like this By grains, having collected everything you wrote here, an image of such a pretty, smart and very positive girl was created

Juliana Jury writes: the image of such a pretty, smart and very positive girl was created

Leda25: Father brought a belt.

Leda25: The father takes off his pants or brings from the closet.

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To be subjected to a well-deserved punishment in a dream means that in real life they will justly pay tribute to your merits, generously paying them. To receive a scolding from the authorities is a serious punishment in reality, to give a scolding to someone - act carelessly towards your subordinates.

If in a dream you are subjected to physical punishment, that is, simply execution, it means that in reality you will become a victim of a slander. To be beaten with batogs and scream at the same time - to false rumors, to beat others with batogs - to do a boring job. Punish with rods - do not refuse advice to friends. Test the rods on your back - emerge victorious from a difficult fight with a serious opponent. Receive with a belt - you will deservedly be condemned for rudeness. To punish your children with a belt - such a dream portends undesirable circumstances for you.

Punishment in the form of imprisonment in a guardhouse portends an unexpected encouragement from superiors. To receive an unfair punishment means that you do not like your occupation, so you fulfill your duties, if only out of hand.

If you were punished with a fine, this portends a health disorder. Avoid paying a fine - save money in reality. To punish guilty children by putting them in a corner or depriving them of something - you will be forced to admit that you are wrong in the dispute. A dream in which you resort to lies in order to avoid punishment means that you will do unfair things to your friends.

Interpretation of dreams from Dream Interpretation alphabetically

Dream Interpretation - Punishment, fine

Being punished in a dream means that you will not fulfill the duties assigned to you, because they annoy you. Paying a fine in a dream - to illness and financial loss. Avoiding paying a fine is a sign that you will win the dispute. If parents dream that they are punishing their children, this means that they doubt the correctness of their chosen educational methods. Show more respect for your offspring!

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The relationship between spouses, both in the distribution of family responsibilities and in sexual terms, is their conscious choice and their secret. The main thing is that each member of the family does not feel slighted or humiliated, at least according to psychologists. Some couples even use a variety of methods of punishment and encouragement, so to speak, resort to the methods of "carrot and stick". For example, forgot to pick up a child from kindergarten- you cook dinner on your own, or stayed up with friends - you can not remember a new dress for at least another month. But recently a friend told me about this type of punishment practiced in her family, like spanking with a belt in a soft spot. A husband punishes his wife with a belt - something new, isn't it? Is it good or bad? How does this affect family relationships? Does this cause feelings of resentment and humiliation?

Today I would like to discuss exactly this topic, the subject of which, oddly enough, is gaining relevance every day. The basis of the discussion will be the discussion of such a piquant method of education on the example of my girlfriend.

To begin with, I will make a small digression and voice the opinion of the main character of the story regarding such a non-standard method of education used in their family. By the way, it should be noted that she does not consider spanking with a belt something non-standard and beyond the bounds of decency. Moreover, the rule was established at the very beginning of living together and was never perceived as violence or an attempt to humiliate the other half by hurting her in this way. Although, in my opinion, such a norm of behavior is not suitable for every woman, and not every man is prone to physical influence in relation to his beloved. But, as they say, to each his own, so there can be no unequivocal opinion on this matter.

Let's get back to our heroes. Probably, you will think that the husband of the “poor thing” is a despot or a retrograde who, by punishing his wife, asserts himself and gets rid of negative energy. Not at all, oddly enough, but he is the exact opposite of the presented image. This is a rather charming and well-mannered young man who has achieved considerable success in business. In addition, he sincerely respects women, appreciates their work and is inclined to perceive his wife as an affectionate and feminine guardian of the family hearth, on which, by and large, the duration and quality of family relationships depend. It’s just that spanking, in his understanding, is a kind of piquant moment that adds variety to the daily life of spouses and, at the same time, is a useful, and sometimes inevitable, method of education.

Given the similarity of views of both spouses, I would say that they feel quite comfortable and do not consider their family special or one where the rights and freedoms of a husband or wife are infringed. Each of them has all the opportunities for self-realization and career growth, as well as understanding and support from the second half. At the same time, spanking with a belt does not affect everyday relationships in any way, but rather disciplines and develops internal organization, which is important not only in everyday life, but also at work.

It is worth noting that the spouses, who became the unwitting heroes of my story, not only have strong family relationships, but are also good friends who can always help each other. We can say with confidence about them that they were lucky in choosing the second half and they are really happy. Neither the husband nor the wife allow themselves to impose their opinion on the second of the spouses, everything happens by mutual agreement and taking into account the requirements and wishes of each family member. And this applies not only to everyday issues, but also to professional ones, which, by the way, cannot be said about many married couples in which such piquant rules do not apply. They are quite tolerant in relation to each other's hobbies and interests.

By the way, punishment with a belt has a rather positive effect on the sexual life of the family under discussion. Spanking with a belt brings an additional erotic shade to the relationship of partners, is a fertile ground for erotic fantasies, so you definitely can’t call their sex boring and monotonous.

However, despite all of the above, flogging remains a fairly tangible method of punishment, which is used only in extreme cases and for fairly serious offenses. In other words, punishment should remain punishment. So, for the first time, a friend received a lyuley in the form of a spanking in the soft spot for smoking. It must be said that such a peculiar participation of her husband did not pass without a trace and thoughts about smoking do not visit her to this day. Nevertheless, the fact of physical impact on the psyche was not perceived by her as violence, although a minor offense was still present for some time. But this quickly passed, as the wife accepted her husband's decision and realized that it was really right and useful not only for her, but for the whole family. Subsequent cases of flogging no longer entailed resentment and misunderstanding, but were perceived as a norm of behavior, with the help of which, so to speak, to eradicate the evil that threatens family happiness.

To make it clearer, I will add that the heroine of the story does not have a panic and enslaving fear of her husband, moreover, the relationship between husband and wife is quite democratic. She happily returns home, looking forward to her husband from work, but he will not miss the opportunity to pamper his wife with some surprise, to do something pleasant. At the same time, each of them is convinced that it is their concept of family happiness that is correct, and if some couples adhered to just such a model of behavior, perhaps the number of divorces and broken families, not to mention broken children's destinies, would be much less.

The only taboo that the spouses adhere to (and this is very important) is the inadmissibility of the implementation of punishment in the presence of children. I note that they have been married for more than 6 years and have children. Children, in principle, should not see any manifestations of violence, especially between parents.

On this, my story about how a husband punishes his wife with a belt has come to an end, but the conclusions regarding the positive and negative sides you are free to do this method of education yourself. As for me, if such a concept really suits both, it is their right and their choice. After all, they don’t spank neighbors who interfere with sleep and listen to music until midnight)

I dropped my father's typewriter on the floor and now I fearfully await the arrival of my parents.

Since I was forbidden to touch the typewriter, and I smashed it to smithereens, I am incredibly scared of what awaits me. Finally, I break down and call my father at work to sort out my future. My father orders me to find his black belt in the closet and put it on the sofa in the living room. I am completely confused and incredibly scared because I have never been spanked before. I recall fragments of conversations of classmates that I heard at school about how they were flogged at home, and I want to spend the three remaining hours before my father arrives in the company of one of them, it seems that now I have no one closer than these classmates. I call my girlfriend, whom my father mercilessly flogs for deuces, and chat with her about nonsense for about an hour. And then I go to the bathroom to look at my ass in the mirror and start to whine, I return to the living room and lie down on the sofa, imagining that this is exactly how, with my stomach down, my father will order me to lie on the sofa. I'm so scared that the idea is born in my head to go to a friend and ask her father to flog me, and then, I think, I will avoid spanking my father. I'm not so scared if someone else smacks me. However, I am well aware that all my ideas are no good and my father will punish me.

When my father finally gets home, he slowly undresses in the hallway and leads me by the shoulder into the living room, where he kneels in front of the sofa and puts the belt in front of my face. Then he goes to his office to look at the broken typewriter and when he comes back he is incredibly angry. He starts whipping me with a sweeping belt, pressing me to the sofa. I scream out loud that I won't do it again. My father suddenly turns me around and squeezes me between his knees, pulls off my skirt and panties and starts spanking my bare ass for so long and painfully that in the end I roar at the top of my voice and it’s already impossible to make out “I won’t do it again” in my roar.

I was then nine years old. Either my father thought that children should not be flogged until the age of nine, or he thought that flogging was good for me, but after that, if I should have been punished, I was flogged.

We went to a competition in Moscow and stayed at the sports boarding school "Olympic Reserves".

And the next day he beat me painfully because I left the boarding school without permission to walk around Moscow, while he and the older guys went to the arena for a competition. My girlfriend and I got lost in the subway, and when we returned to the boarding school, they already rushed to look for us, and our absence without asking became known to the coach.

At first he scolded us for a long time, and then it was time for dinner, and after dinner everyone went to watch a movie, including my girlfriend. The coach took me to the back room at the gym and locked the door with a key. There he slowly took off his belt, folded it in half and put it in left hand, and then, sitting on a stool, put me in front of him, tightly holding the belt of my jeans. A stern lecture followed, during which he unbuttoned my jeans and pulled them down to my knees along with my panties, continuing to hold me now just above the waist so that his belt touched the place where I knew I would be punished . I tried to pull my panties back on, but I received an impressive slap and after that I only mumbled that I would not do it again.

I muttered this in the pauses of his notation, which he deliberately left for my excuses, lowering my voice and lowering my hands to my buttocks to slap me hard on the left of them with my large and warm palm, collected "in a bucket" - as I said it in childhood, to slap the entire rounded buttock at once. At the same time, losing my balance and not always having time to stretch my arms in front of me, I poked my face into his shoulder and I wanted him to let me stay like that, buried my face in his shoulder, and, crying, ask for forgiveness, while he pulls my panties and jeans back over me and comforts me by stroking my head.

But, meanwhile, he finished scolding me and laid me across his left knee. Closing his knees tightly and pressing on my back with his hand, he completely deprived me of the possibility of protesting movements and began to flog. He did it not very painfully, obviously carefully so as not to give me a belt in the full strength of a healthy male athlete. I didn’t even scream, I just roared, the way children roar when they can’t do anything about what they don’t like. When he poured me as much as he thought I should have, he just as easily lifted me by the shoulders and put me on my feet, as before, laid across his knee. He wiped away my tears and took me by the hand to the cinema hall to watch the end of the movie, where he sat me next to him.

And before going to bed, he caught me leaving the shower in my flannel pajamas and kissed me on the forehead. I burst into tears and he hurriedly took me to his room. There he sat me on his knee and began to reassure me that all naughty children get a belt on the pope, and that he always wanted to have a daughter and that if I agreed, he would treat me like his daughter.

I was ten years old. My innermost desires woke up in me much earlier than in my peers, and these desires gave that expressiveness to my childish look, which, combined with the fact that I was a very obedient, naive and pretty child, attracted many mature men to me like a magnet. My trainer probably succumbed to this temptation of mature men, but did not fully realize that if he scolded me, he would see nothing more than a roaring child, a red ass the size of his palm (in the “non-bucket” position) and absolutely childish panties with a thick elastic band, stretched to the limit between my skinny knees, when I bent down, I pulled my panties back on my whipped ass.

We never went beyond the limits outlined that evening, and I never switched to “you” with him, continuing to call him by his first name and patronymic. Growing up, I still remained a fragile girl, whom, if necessary, he just as easily laid across his strong knee and painfully flogged with a belt the required number of times.

My nanny was a middle-aged woman of strong build and strong disposition. She brought me up in severity and often flogged me. In her room there was a large leather armchair, on the seat of which I was supposed to lie down on my stomach when punishment from the nurse awaited me.

Before the spanking, she always locked the door of her room on a hook so that my younger brother would not inadvertently run into the room, and ordered me to lie down on a chair, after which my ass was immediately exposed and the nanny, lamenting that she would once again complain about me to my father and he should unfasten me with a rod, proceeded to flogging.

She really complained about me to her father, but my father preferred to leave corporal punishment on the nanny's conscience. All these nanny's spankings were arranged in such a homely way and she spanked me with the same economic streak with which she discussed my menu for the coming week with our cook that it never occurred to me to see in them anything different from what the nanny did for me every day, like bathing me in a vat of hot water in the kitchen, or reading books selected for me by my parents every day.

My regular spanking was perceived by me as something necessary, which is due to every girl of my age from a good family. In addition, the thought of eluding my nanny's rods never crossed my mind, since she had undoubted power in our house and it was pointless for me to seek protection from my parents.

Not later than this morning her mother told me that her nasty girl had thrush, and in me, let Lotochka's mother never know about it, an irresistible desire woke up to enjoy in full the smell of those yellowish, probably discharges, from which there was a smell of Lotochka in the last two sunny days, when she seized the moment when I was walking through the garden, dragging me to a branchy apple tree, where, grabbing the girl by the ribs, I lifted her, reaching for the apple, and, as if by chance, rested her pubis against my outgoing languor and giving fire through the veins in the lower abdomen forehead.

I would like to lay her tummy on the sofa and, pulling off her cotton panties, massage her two-sided ass for a long time, and then, when she has completely calmed down and recovered from her fright, push her smooth halves at once and, holding this elastic tiny buttock in each palm, pull up her ass up and, placing Lotka in this way on her knees, gently insert a finger into her inflamed slit, and, holding my Lotka tightly, pour hot breath over her right ear, whispering words that, may this incredible eclipse happen in her memory, Lotka will not will remember. And then spank her loudly on her dirty panties in the hope that Lotochka will consider everything previous as a shameful punishment for her slovenliness, and take her to her room, where crying and holding on to my shoulders of a man squatting in front of her, she will stick her legs in turn into clean panties, which I will patiently hold stretched to the width of their elastic bands.

My mother flogged me with a long, well-soaked rod. This always happened before going to bed. I was ordered to go to bed earlier than usual and go to bed naked. Mother usually did not hurry with her appearance, and when she appeared, she pulled off the blanket from me and began to flog me, after each blow she ordered me to raise my ass in the direction in which the mother raised the rod. This order was pronounced with a short English “Up” (my mother was an Englishwoman) and its purpose was to partake of me in my own punishment, as if I myself made the decision on the need to flog me mercilessly.

My mother always flogged me slowly, reprimanding me for my misconduct. If I was mischievous and didn’t want to keep my ass, as my mother ordered, then my father was called, who whipped me with his officer’s belt so that I screamed at the whole house and after that I unquestioningly, for at least six months, roaring from pain, lifted my ass for the maternal rod on the “Up” command.

My younger sisters were whipped just as mercilessly as I was, however, always deservedly so. My sisters and I had a common bedroom, and if one of us was to be spanked by our mother, we all equally cringed in our beds with fear, as if spanking awaited each of us. When the mother came into the bedroom, the girls were ordered to turn their backs to the wall, while the culprit turned over on her stomach and raised her buttocks higher, hoping to soften the mother with her obedience.

I was seventeen years old, I had just finished my first year at the university and was in a village near Moscow, where we were sent from the university to work on collective farms.

There I once had to spend the night in the house of a village mother. It was eleven o'clock at night and I was about to go to bed when the landlady's daughter returned home. This was a girl of my age, as broad in bone and tall as her mother, which, however, did not prevent her mother from whipping her daughter with a rod on her naked shins right in front of me. The daughter obviously came home later than she was allowed by her mother, and because of this she was punished and was now crying in some remote corner of the house. That's when my old desire awakened in me.

The mother, still not out of her anger at her daughter, cursed at the youth of today and turned to me every minute - as the only representative of the youth in her field of vision - with questions about why we are all so arrogant, hang around the guys and talk to mothers. Something told me that this woman would immediately kick my ass right now if I gave her the slightest reason to do so. And then, instead of answering her next question, I was rude to her, and, seeing how she, turning sharply, was heading towards me, obviously to hit me on the lips, I, before she had time to approach me, was already lying across the bench, on which she sat there, unequivocally preferring to get what she deserved in the ass, rather than in the lips.

I have no idea what went through this woman's head at the sight of my submissive figure with her ass at the ready, but the next thing I felt was how she rips off my trousers and panties from my ankles and enthusiastically starts spanking, saying, that all of us city dwellers need to be beaten like Sidor goats, and that she will pour me in the way that we, city dwellers, only need to be flogged.

She was a healthy village woman, with large breasts and a powerful ass, who probably enjoyed spanking me just because I was so unlike the portly village girls. And, probably, it gave her an unforgettable pleasure to watch how my young butt trained by shaping, narrow and thin like a boy's, reflected under the rod.

She flogged me from the bottom of her heart, and if it were not for her massive knee, with which she literally pressed me into the bench with her weight, I would have run away from this house, because the pain burned my buttocks, as if they flogged me with a fiery rod, at that time how I expected to get just a couple of hard slaps from this homely country mother.

When there was a fight in our kindergarten, window glass shattered to smithereens or another incident happened where his culprit was established - the teacher's strap was waiting for the culprit, if the parents did not mind.

In kindergarten, we were divided into those whose parents "objected" and those whose parents "did not mind." In the first case, the culprit went to bed, where he or she remained until the end of the day, until the arrival of the parents. In the second case, the teacher ordered us to go to the medical room, where there was a couch tightly covered with blue oilcloth, and where the kids were given injections at other times and under other circumstances, for which we were lined up with our pants down, or they gave enemas if the tummy was tormenting. After some time, a teacher appeared in the medical room and the delinquent or delinquent found themselves on the couch with their bare booty up. With her left hand, the teacher pressed the baby to the couch, and with her right hand she quilted with a strap. The roar at the same time was terrible.

As for my parents, not only did they object to the belt in kindergarten, but they never punished me at home either. And I played with my dolls "in the teacher" and mercilessly slapped the dolls on their plastic asses with my plastic toothbrush.

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Father of the nation (and three boys)
When starting a discussion, one should not forget its original purpose - to find out whether it is necessary to punish children by the method of "carrot and stick". Let me give you an example from my family. I am 31 years old, I work as a middle manager at VimpelCom. Wife - left, was going to return 6 years ago, but died. Children - Pavel, 14 years old, Anton, 12 years old and Gleb, 11 years old. Initially, I was a liberal parent, restricting children only in matters related to large purchases with pocket money and carefully controlling who the children were friends with so that perverts and homosexuals of different sexes did not come across. The problems started two years ago. Both older boys stole in a supermarket to argue with other children (I never wondered about the possibility of theft, I never stole anything myself, so I didn’t control it. They started to fight all the time, Pashka - they were also rude, snarling. They stopped fulfilling elementary requests like washing dishes in the dishwasher car. Once 2 older boys did not come home from a party in the evening. It doesn’t matter how I spent a sleepless night, but when in the morning, at 7 o’clock, they stumbled into an apartment with a friend drunk in a woman, and they themselves are the same (dad, well after all, all the boys drink vodka!), I couldn’t resist, I took out a wide and thick soldier’s belt from the demobilization from the closet, laid out Anton, Pashka and their friend, gave everyone in turn a one and a half liter enema with a large amount of technical soap and glycerin, let them go to the dualt, sleep for two hours. In a dream, he tied his hands and feet and laid them out on the kukhon table. When everyone woke up, he brought the younger one, read a speech, brought the younger one, and gave each of them three dozen blows on the ass and thighs. The worst thing in the other boy was angry. Then, under fear of spanking, he placed the boys in the corners. different rooms on peas. He allowed me to get up after 4 hours, and for the time of standing in the corner I put a candle made of laundry soap for each.
Since that time, I spanked each of the children no more than 10 times, in total there were 23 spankings and 2 setting candles for the eldest boy, Pasha. The first time there is a violation, misdemeanor, or simple mischief, I just
I warn you with words, for the second time I take off my pants and swimming trunks and slap my ass several times with my hand, but after the third misconduct of the same type, the offender is waiting for two or three dozen blows, which are applied in a ratio of 1 to 2 to 1 on the hips, buttocks and back, respectively, and standing in the corner for two to four hours on peas. For good behavior, the absence of triplets during the year in quarters is “punished” by a joint trip abroad in the summer. In the summer there was Eurodisneyland in France, Dima - Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, last summer - Italy. We are going to India this summer.
The children were asked what is better for them - such whippings with a belt or “flogging with a ruble”, or moral punishment - house arrests and being left without a computer, music and TV. Everyone chose a belt, and Antosha even offered to "be stricter." Immediately after spanking the child, you need to take pity, caress, you can rub the ass fastened with a belt - it soothes the pain. But after such a session of caresses, you need to put it in a corner, on peas, salt or buckwheat (up to four years you can’t damage the bones, they are still soft) - so that the child thinks about his misdeed and, after the punishment has expired, while still on his knees, hugs you by the legs and weeping bitterly, shedding tears and snot, she asked for forgiveness and an end to punishment. Then you need to caress again, escort him to the bath, perhaps even help him wash himself, anoint his ass with iodine and his knees with softening cream, and put him to bed. From this moment on, the punishment will not be remembered - as well as the committed misconduct. In the morning, I strongly recommend putting on a double set of underwear for the child - it will be softer at school. However, I neglect this - at school, almost half of the kids go striped every other day, and when Antoshka or Alyosha frown, sitting down, no one laughs. Just like in the gym locker room. Even as a behavioral adjustment, you can force the kids to go to school in shorts, knee-highs and a short-sleeve T-shirt from the end of March until the first snow. From above, of course, a pullover, a blouse or a suit. You know, the risk of embarrassment that the belt marks will be noticed and teased. Thank you for your attention, I love criticism. Don't consider spanking an end in itself, it's just a means to an end.
can a 13 year old daughter be punished with a belt
Looking from what does not help.
Here it is necessary to measure the severity of the offense and the severity of the punishment.
I tore my daughter at the age of 14, and not even with a belt, but with a rod, but the offense corresponded to that. In short - she disappeared at the dacha at midnight, almost bringing us to a heart attack. And the punishment, in my opinion, corresponded to the offense. Although she sulked at us for several days, but then they reconciled. And they promised each other that nothing like this would ever happen again. And they kept their word.
Angelica
I also punish my daughter with a belt, it helps a lot, once or twice a week on a bare pope and the child is like silk, sometimes you just need to show it, but is it right? write how do you do it? My daughter is 3.2 years old
Ksenia
Yes, I’m not necessarily my own now, my daughter (4 years old) is naked in the back with a belt properly, 25 times and has been standing in the corner for 30 minutes now and will stand until I let her go out. But now it will be like an angel for 5 days, and then again, me or my husband.
Vika
As a child, I got both from dad and mom, they probably thought that the belt was the only way to bring them up. I also remember well how my father punished, he did not spare the blows, and the force of the blows was different. I will tell you one story from my childhood, as a child I was, to put it mildly, uncontrollable. In the summer after dinner, I went for a walk outside (we lived in a private house), I was 8 years old. I saw with my girlfriends that someone on the bench forgot cigarettes and a lighter. We indulged, lit cigarettes, and then tried to smoke, just when the cigarette was in my mouth, my father came out onto the porch. Even when I was on the street, I wanted to go to the toilet, I asked: “Can I go to the toilet?” My father answered rudely: “No. “(Before that, somehow, during the punishment, I went to the toilet and closed myself there, and came out only after a while) I took off my dresses and panties. My father began to beat me with a belt on the pope, he did it in a strange position horses, but then I got a belt for glory. After I stood in the corner until sleep, I remember how badly the back seat burned and I still really wanted to write. After another 5 days I sat at home.
Of course, I received a very very strict upbringing, but this did not prevent me from establishing myself in life, rather the opposite, probably it was impossible with me otherwise

Sometimes you can.
I am 15 years old. I recently returned home very late without informing my parents. My father told me to lie on my stomach on the arm of the sofa, pull down my panties and flogged me with a belt on my bare ass. It was with my older brother. I was hurt and ashamed. I don’t know if my father will flog me again, but I think he did the right thing after all.
Rita
sometimes you need to take a belt and you can, it gives effective results, in short: “When I was 9 years old, I took a large amount of money at home without asking and spent almost all of it, oh then I remember getting a good belt from dad (the back seat was on fire) and hours 2 with a bare bottom stood in the corner. It was very embarrassing, but the result. I'm behind the belt when it's necessary of course
Alyona
I am 15 years old, my father is very strict. If I deserve it, he makes me kneel and spanks me with a belt on my bare ass. Recently carved for a deuce. The whole butt was swollen, she could not sit. There is no buzz here, and humiliating. But he considers it the right method of education.
Natalia
If our daughter doesn't obey, my husband spanks her bare bottom with a belt, she is now 11 years old. After that, it becomes like silk. Whipping has never harmed anyone.
Daria
I think that teenagers just need to be punished with a belt
Stele.
In my opinion, that’s right. If the daughter deserves it, she gets a bare bottom, with a strap. Only, in my opinion, it’s the mother who should take the strap, take off the girl’s pants, hit the bottom.
Valery
Flogging
I was strict with my daughter, I spanked her until she was 17 years old. After spanking, it became like silk. I always smacked a strap on my bare pope. wised up.
You need to smack

Daughter began to be rude to us - transitional age. He took the belt and ordered her to lie down on the sofa. Flogged on the bare pope. For some time it was like silk, but it starts to be rude again. Will have to cut again. But I don’t know - on a bare bottom? She is already 14.

Agree
From childhood, my parents whipped me on my bare butt so that it would not seem enough. Grew up as a man. I regularly flog my daughter for bad grades. He does not want to think with his head - let the priest be responsible for the head.
You need to smack
Once I came home in the morning - I sat with a friend, but my parents knew that I was there, and it turned out that her phone did not work. I was already 16 years old, but my father whipped me with a belt for this in front of my brothers (they are 18 and 14 years old). And flogged on the bare pope. I still can't forget that shame. But now I think that I would have punished my daughter in the same way. I realized what feelings I brought to my parents.
Right
You are doing the right thing. We've flogged our daughter since childhood, although she's already 13. The other day I whipped her badly for two deuces in English. How pretty I lay down on the sofa and lowered my pants myself. Then he brings the diary: "Daddy, I have two fives." That's what a good spanking means!
I always smack on my bare buttocks.
It will be necessary - and until the age of 17 we will flog. For her own, stupid, good.
Oksana
As a child, I stole a toy from a neighbor girl and hid it at home. I was 10 years old. My parents found me and forced me to return. It was then that the first and only whipping on my bare ass happened in my life.
My father told me to take off my pants, kneel on the floor and lie face down on the couch. I called that girlfriend and, in front of her, my mother and younger brother, whipped me almost to the point of blood, repeating: “Are you going to take someone else’s?” I screamed no, but he repeated it 10 times, continuing to smack.
Then he told me to stand in this position for an hour. Moreover, everyone walked around the apartment, doing business, and I stood in front of them with a bare booty.
I was never spanked again. But I will remember this shame forever. Then I was terribly offended and ashamed. But now I understand that it was the right punishment.
I am for spanking children! And it's okay that on a bare pope. Only benefit.
So do it - if you deserve it, lift up your skirt and properly flog your bare buttocks. So that I couldn’t sit on my ass for a week.
Nicholas
How else? Exactly SPOT. And on the NAKED ass, so that it was more painful.
I flog my daughter from 7 years old with a belt for disobedience. I put it on my knees, I lower her pants - and with a belt on the buttocks, on the thighs, until the arm gets tired. There is nothing to be ashamed of in front of the father of the naked priests. She is now in 8th grade. Grow up - she will say thank you that flogged.
At first, the wife was against spanking, but then she saw that it was necessary. I was so beaten as a child that I could not sit on my ass for a week.
Children need to be spanked
You can flog at least up to 20 years.
I received from my parents for every serious misconduct as it should. My father flogged me with a belt on my bare buttocks. The first time I was whipped was in the 3rd grade. Yes, it hurts. Yes, it's a shame to lie in front of your father with a bare booty. But it was for my own good. But she grew up as a person and achieved a lot in life.
My husband of our daughter kicked his ass for a deuce so much that now he is studying for one five.
In Rus', children were flogged as long as they could fit on the bench.
Alexei
How will be correct"?
The daughter (7th grade) began to study worse and worse, she is rude to us. Patience ran out - he told her to take off her pants and lie down on the sofa. Whipped with a belt on a bare pope.
And until what age should we flog her?
Fuck and all
And up to 17 years old. What's smart? Say that you will flog, if you don’t understand otherwise. To lay down on the sofa belly down. Better yet, let him kneel on the floor and lean on the sofa. Father has nothing to be ashamed of. How to lash the belt over the bare pope.
When I was 15, I whipped mine like that in front of the whole family - the nonsense was gone.
Under 17 Dmitry
My wife and I flogged our daughter until she was 17. For a deuce or disobedience, she received a good belt from us. She said none of her classmates were flogged, but I didn't pay attention to that. As a misdemeanor - he took off his belt and said "prepare your ass." I spanked her lying on the couch on her bare buttocks. Once he carved with a friend (he found out that he skipped school).
As a result, she wised up, finished school very well and entered the university. The spanking disappeared by itself.
Marina
In the summer at the dacha, I came home in the morning (I was walking with my friends). My father took the belt and dragged me to the bathhouse, saying that it was time to flog me. I thought he was joking, I struggled, but he made me lift my skirt, pull down my panties and lie down across the bench, bending down. I'm 15 years old, and he whipped me on my bare ass. The neighbors definitely heard that I was flogged. Isn't it possible to act differently, without spanking? As a last resort - not on the bare bottom and so that no one would hear?
Can a 13-year-old daughter be punished with a belt?
And what else to do if she does not understand differently? And rightly so, they choose the lesser of two evils: spanking is better than drugs, AIDS by the age of 17, etc. and so on.
And the fact that on a bare butt is also correct, through clothes is meaningless, then this is not a punishment, but some kind of circus. Of course, it would be better to clearly and clearly explain the consequences, but since he does not understand what to do.
Dasha: they started flogging me
I am 14 years old and recently I was punished with a belt for the first time. Dad whipped me on my bare buttocks.
He put me on his knees, tilting my head almost to the floor, pulled up my skirt and pulled down my panties. I twisted, but he held tight, and my mother held my legs. It was very painful. And it's terribly embarrassing that dad sees my ass. I'm almost an adult. And it was because of the deuce.
And the other day a girlfriend came in, and dad realized that I was not at school. He took the belt, made me lie down on the bed and expose my ass. I got whipped in front of my girlfriend! I almost burned with shame. She offers to tell the class teacher, but I'm ashamed if she finds out that I'm being spanked.

I do not know what to do. Of course, now I try to study better, not to skip.
spanking helps
I get it from my parents since childhood. I'm in the 8th grade, but they make me lie down on the sofa, pull down my pants and flog my bare bottom with a belt. Once I brought two deuces, and my father whipped me with a buckle. When he was away, my mother spanked me, it doesn’t hurt so much.
Oddly enough, spanking helps. I am learning much better now.
George
My parents flogged me on my bare buttocks for misdemeanors under 18. The wife was never punished.
I started spanking my daughter in 5th grade. Everything is as it should, with a belt on the bare pope. The wife was against it at first, but saw the result and agreed that spanking was needed. Like a deuce - the daughter already knows herself that she deserved a spanking. Obediently lays down on the sofa and substitutes the ass.
Now he is finishing school with only A's and B's!
Very rarely can
In the 8th grade, I stole money from my student brother. I thought he wouldn't notice. I spent it on all sorts of nonsense. Everything was found out, and my parents decided me at the age of 14. carve! I asked for forgiveness, but dad dragged me by the ear into big room and took the belt.
Whipped me lying down on my bare buttocks. And with my brother, which was terribly embarrassing. She received 20 blows from her father on each buttock, for several days she could not sit on her buttocks.
I was never spanked again. But there was no thought to take someone else's, to lie, etc. Still, spanking can be useful, if for business. But children should be spanked very rarely and not in front of the whole family.
Better without spanking Olya
At the age of 8, for a bad deed, my dad whipped me in front of the whole family. It was terribly humiliating.
I was flogged lying on the couch on my bare ass. After the spanking, she stood for an hour in the corner without panties. All this upset me terribly. I was never flogged again, but I remember this offense for the rest of my life.
At the age of 13, spanking is out of the question. And yes, you have to know how to get along without it. Educate not with a belt, but with words.
Need to smack!
I'm still punishing my wife for misdemeanors. Belt, mostly. And she is already 36 years old. And it helps, that's what matters!
Alyona
And how do you flog your wife - is it like a game or for real? How does it happen for you? Here my husband jokingly said that I should be spanked.
Yes
So cut it out again. And they always whip on the bare buttocks, that's why she flogged.
I whipped my daughter at the age of 17 - it helped.
spanking wife
When I am guilty, I will punish for real. True, everyone understands this “real” in different ways. I try not to damage the skin on the pope.
The number of strokes depends on the severity of the offense. Sometimes it goes up to 200. But more often - 50 - 60.
As a game - this is also present, but this is a separate issue.
one day
once I had a fight at school and got a black eye after I got better, my father took the belt and said to lower my pants and lie down on the sofa. He folded it into two and twenty-five strokes on my buttocks. Couldn't sit up properly for a few days. The second time when my father had a fight, he took the belt, pulled down my pants, put me on my knee and whipped me in front of the whole class, and I'm already 15
I was flogged, and they did the right thing
In my school years, for every deuce or serious misconduct, I was the parents of a whipping. They flogged me until I was 17 with a belt and always on my bare bottom. As they say, "rarely, but aptly." My father made me drop my pants and lie down on the couch with a roll under my stomach. I silently endured the spanking, afraid that the neighbors would hear. Once I came home very late, and relatives were visiting us, and my father whipped me even in their presence.
Now I understand - and my parents did the right thing, I took up my mind. I have no resentment towards them.
Until recently, I lived with my parents in a communal apartment. One day the door to the neighbors' room was ajar, and as I was passing by, I happened to be a witness. spanking.
They flogged Vika, my age of 16. She lay leaning over the arm of the chair, and her father, a completely normal man of about 45, whipped her naked ass. I couldn't see her face, but I think she had to restrain herself from screaming. Her mother was also at the flogging. Vika was flogged for a deuce.
I was amazed that parents flog a 9th grader with a belt, modern girl. And on the NAKED buttocks - this is in general. Personally, they could just spank me on the ass (but not flogged), and even then at kindergarten age. And grew up normal.
What, such "education" in the XXI century is considered normal.
Andrey
Michael: Whipping
We lived in a village, and for hooliganism, my grandfather whipped my ass with a soaked rod. So it was customary that I went to the bathhouse, lowered my pants, bent over the bench and my grandfather flogged my naked ass.
Then my grandfather died, and my mother whipped me right up to the technical school. Not often, but I had to lie down on the bench and in front of it. I remember being so flogged for stealing!
In the village they knew that I was flogged and teased.
Now I understand that it was not easy to raise me. I don't have a grudge against anyone. Sekli did the right thing. The fool was beaten out.
hi my name is Kolya
hi me 14 years ago a week ago my sister painted a beautiful picture and I accidentally ruined it. Dad called me into the living room and told me to lean over the back of the sofa and take off my pants and shorts.
then he pulled out the belt and hit me so hard that he cried like a baby. Then he gave the belt to his sister and she whipped me so that my butt was even covered in blood. Then my mother did this to me, took a jump rope and whipped me where the butt goes into the legs.
After that, my punishment did not end. My mother put me on her knee, my father took slippers and slapped me on my already red, bruised and slightly bloody ass. After that, my father brought me in his arms to my room and said that if this happens again, I will be in front of the whole family, two grandmothers, two grandfathers, aunt, uncle, flogged.
Not with my mother, not with my father and sister, I have not spoken since that day.
spanking helps
You may be shocked, but I myself taught my parents to be punished with a belt. It's just easier than constant boycotts and moralizing. Morally easier. I take off my pants and panties, lie down on the bed and usually get 30 times, the butt burns, but it's easier than what it was before. My parents were flogged in childhood, they were offended and they categorically decided not to flog me and started doing it when I convinced them that I was not offended. We agreed when and for what they would flog me. First whipped at 12, now I'm 15
spanking wife
For wrongdoing. Disobedience. For errors in work and management household.
How does it apply? Differently. As a rule, she agrees that she deserved punishment. Sometimes he thinks I'm wrong. But that's how we do it. If I think that she should be punished, this is not discussed. And there is no resistance. Since such attempts will only cause increased punishment.
At the same time, anticipating the appropriate remarks, I want to say that we have a very a good relationship. And my wife, strange as it may seem, is very grateful to me for such an upbringing. And she did not make many mistakes in life only thanks to such a system of punishment.
I'm 16 and my mom still punishes me with a belt
I am 16 years old and my mother flogs me with a belt when I am guilty. I strip naked, lie on my stomach on the bed, booty up, and my mother punishes me with a belt. Andrey

Gotta flog
In order to flog, to humiliate, so that the child understands his guilt. Slash should be lying down on the bare pope. Public spanking is even better. In Rus', children were flogged with a rod.
Lena: Probably need to flog
They still punish me with a belt even though I'm already in the 9th grade. I don't study very well, and usually my father spanks me after a deuce or after a meeting at school. You have to lie down on the sofa with a bare booty. Sometimes it happens with the whole family (mother and younger sisters), this is especially embarrassing. I always tried to endure in silence, and the last time they flogged me very painfully. After the spanking, I still correct my grades. I don't know if they're doing it right, but that's the way we do it. My parents were also flogged as children.
My opinion
But I think he doesn’t want to study, let the priest answer, he doesn’t want to sit in the library, let him stand in the corner
Yes, humiliation
This is what is required. Whatever it was. Next time, not noah (I really asked to be punished, at least not in front of everyone), but right behind my pants. If you're ashamed, just don't yell in a wild voice. Receive with dignity.
No resentment for spanking
I was flogged for bad grades and deeds until the age of 17. I lay down on the sofa, lowered my pants and got a belt. Sekli always on a bare pope. I don't hold grudges against my parents. They are strict, but it was done for my own good.
Nicholas
You are doing the right thing, I am also raising my younger sister (I am her guardian) exclusively by flogging and a pretty beating of the ears. My sister is 10 years old and she herself already knows that if she was guilty, then it’s better for me to confess right away, then I won’t flog her so much and won’t tear my ears so much. The best parenting is spanking.
spanking daughter
I also whip my daughter with a belt on her bare pope. She doesn’t understand without a spanking, she’s completely blabbed. She is 15. When she grows up, she will thank her again.
Michael
Julia
I'm 13. Recently I got two deuces in Russian. I didn’t tell my mom, but she found out about it on the parent
skom meeting at school. At home, after that, she ordered me to lie down on the sofa and flogged me ON THE NUDE BUTT! Hits 30, no less. Then I couldn't sit for 2 days. I've been beaten since I was 5 years old, but I still can't get used to it. I kind of agree, though. hurt
punished
You can't hit kids. This is very bad. And it hurts. And if anyone thinks that good method, it is not true. Sense that I was punished recently. Better I won't. It only hurts and is scary when dad takes the belt.
The parents said that the son of their acquaintances was flogged, and it was only good, and they would flog me.
see how the spanking is necessary because you are trying to improve because of the spanking
I got whipped
Until the age of 17, I was flogged with a belt for every offense. It was even more humiliating than painful, because. flogged lying on the bare pope in front of the whole family. Once I was flogged in front of relatives. After the flogging, they were forced to stand for an hour in the corner with their pants down, even in front of guests. I will remember this shame for the rest of my life.
smack
I'm also 14 and my stepfather has been flogging me since I was seven years old. Sometimes he beats me very hard blood appears and they also put their knees on buckwheat. I don’t take offense at him for this.
gloom
Yes, spank a child, and properly, but at 4 years old it’s not so hard
Kostya
I am 12 years old. Dad punishes me with a belt for deuces, but not for everything. For example, if I was sick and got a deuce for a math test after an illness, then dad would not punish me, and if I got a deuce for an unlearned poem, then “take off your pants and lie down on the bed.” I'm not offended by him, because I myself am to blame. Who prevented me from learning a poem? Nobody. Who is to blame for the fact that I got a couple? Only myself. And I have to answer myself. As dad says at work, they give a bonus for good work, and punish them with a "ruble" for bad work. That's me as well. For good studies, various rewards, and for deuces, “take off your pants” and a belt on the pope. And I think it's right. Next time I will think that it is better to spend 15 minutes memorizing a poem, or then lie down and cry for 15 minutes under the blows of the belt.
That's right, you need to flog! This spanking only helps a person! I completely agree with your opinion.
punishment

For deuces I am not allowed to walk or watch TV. Even now I am sitting at home, punished, I was forbidden to walk for three deuces in one day, I will be punished for the whole next week.
And they flogged me once in the summer when I came home at 23 and was supposed to be at 21. In the morning, dad told me to take off my pants to the knee and flogged me on my bare ass. Then he put me in a corner on the buckwheat, where I stood until the evening.
Nadia
I get pulled with a belt almost every day and sometimes several times. this morning they tore me off even a pancake to wake up as a person did not have time to lift up his shirt and flogged with a rod like a loser. and in the evening dad will come. that will escape or something. be choked to death.
flogging
Recently I didn't do my English homework and my teacher gave me a bad mark. I didn't show the diary to my parents, but they saw the deuce and whipped me not only for the deuce, but because I hid it.
In general, they always flog me for Deuces and Threes.
I got a C for my English semester because of those B's for not doing my homework.
My parents whipped me so that I could not sit for two days. Then they put me in a corner barefoot on peas for the whole day and forbade me to walk and watch TV until the end school year. Once I went for a walk when I was punished and I was whipped on my bare feet, now I never violate the punishment.
IT IS NECESSARY TO SCAN WITH ALL THE FORCE
KNEES ON THE FLOOR, STOMACH, HEAD AND ARM ON THE BED! SAY THAT SHE WILL RELAX AND THEN ON THE BARE ASS SUDDENLY HOW TO PURCH PRAR A TEN TIMES WITH AN ARMY BELT! THE BUTT WILL BE HURT FOR A LONG TIME AND THE BRAIN WILL FALL INTO PLACE!
Oleg
I want a complaint about my dad. Yesterday we had a meeting at school where our teacher talked about our successes. Minya has two deuces in the report card in Russian and in mathematics. Dad came home from the meeting angry and the squirrel shouted at me to take off my pants. He paroled me with his rimnem very strongly, even to the priests touching it hurts. Is it possible to do this with a 9 year old kid?
Yeees. They don’t even put me naked on peas, but they flog me not only with a belt, but for special “merits” with an electric cord from a CD player and always in the evening. I am very ashamed, the neighbors simply cannot but hear this, especially since my peers live nearby - 15-year-old boys, it's just awful, it's good at least we study in different schools. And no matter how hard I tried, with this vidachny cord I always screamed at the top of my voice, it was very painful.
Olya.
I was punished as a child.
Now I am 18 years old. I did not study so well, but I am not punished.
Once I welded 100kr. And it hurt me so much. My mother told me to undress, but I refused. with a belt, but I didn’t have time to flinch as she had already arrived. Well, in general, I had such a thrashing, and then I was still 4.
Sergei
I've been smacking my daughter since childhood! This leads to the fact that she knows if she gets screwed?

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Archpriest Dimitry Smirnov on how to punish children

The Russian Orthodox Church is concerned about the new version of the Criminal Code, which prohibits corporal punishment of children. As an argument, representatives of the Russian Orthodox Church refer to the Holy Scripture, which "considers the possibility of the reasonable and loving use of physical punishment as an integral part of the rights of parents established by God Himself." According to the statement of the Patriarchal Commission on Family Affairs, Protection of Motherhood and Childhood, conscientious parents who punish their offspring “moderately and reasonably” may also suffer because of this. Lenta.ru spoke with the chairman of this commission, Archpriest Dimitry Smirnov, about how to properly raise children.

From the statement of the Patriarchal Commission for Family Affairs, it can be concluded that Orthodox Church approves of physical punishment of children.

It is necessary to read Russian texts correctly. He does not approve at all, but perceives it as an extreme measure. The statement was made regarding the new wording of Article 116 of the Criminal Code “Battery”. The people even called it "the law on the prohibition of education." We fear that this could lead to criminal prosecution of conscientious and loving parents. For a simple slap on the pope or even shouting, which law enforcement officers can now consider psychological abuse, they can be imprisoned for up to two years. A long separation from mom or dad will do a child much more harm than a moderate and reasonable thrashing, which he will forget about by evening.

The concept of "moderate" is different for everyone. Maybe it is worth legislatively defining the threshold of "reasonableness" so as not to lead into temptation?

We have no concept of "cow" in the Criminal Code. How can I eat beef now? And the frog legs? This is also a big problem. And the sun at us, represent, shines. It should also be written into the law. In this matter, we can go crazy. If we do not understand what a reasonable punishment means, then we sign for our complete idiocy. Then we generally need to be fenced with barbed wire and fed with millet from a shovel.

Human rights activists who deal with the problem of violence say that all family tragedies just begin with such slaps.

Human rights activists are on the payroll of Western special agents. Where are human rights defenders when children are being killed in Syria and Ukraine? There is none of them. Human rights defenders protect our children. Why? They love them. In Greek, lovers of children are called pedophiles. You have to look at the situation. Look here. I'm crossing a busy highway. I have a suitcase in my left hand. On the right is a child. My little boy starts pulling his arm out. What are you supposed to do? Kneel in front of him, press your hands to your chest: “Vasya, are you doing something wrong?” Meanwhile, cars are flying around us. To quickly stop the boy, who does not understand the danger, because he still has a diffuse mind, can only be slapped. In this case, our beloved state threatens us with prison, and human rights activists will follow this, write denunciations. Patriarchal commission against excessive state interference in family affairs. The state is an official, and an official can never love a child more than a parent.

Why are you afraid that new law will be necessarily used against parents?

Every person has detractors. I am sure of one thing: any law must be reasonable and fair. But here it is not. I am sure that our president, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, before signing this bill, did not carefully read it. We did not think that this law would be adopted so quickly. It was believed that he would lie down until the fall, and the public would still have time to speak out.

Almost all countries have introduced penalties for domestic violence. This week, France passed a law where spanking and slapping a child can lead to three years in prison.

We live in Russia with our own traditions and culture. Russian parents are in serious danger from the West. And so our family is in crisis, there are a lot of divorces, children are out of obedience, corrupted by cinema, pop music, the media, especially the Internet. If you look at what words fifth graders exchange on VKontakte, you can turn gray. And don't you dare stop them!

Were you punished as a child?

Once in my life, my father screwed up. But even now I remember that I was very guilty.

And you don't resent him?

No, of course not. Thankful. Why not hit the boy if, for example, he cursed his grandmother with foul language? I remember one of my parishioners, he said that he was very grateful to his father, who once whipped him. "For what?" - I ask. "For coming home from school stoned." He promised that if he found another cigarette, he would kill him altogether. Since then he has not smoked. And his father kept him healthy. The man is now 45 years old. It could well have been ill with cancer of the larynx. But now he remembers everything with love for his late father. This is how it affected his psyche.

Are other parenting methods less effective?

After all, no one says that spanking is a method of education. No, this is a last resort. Like life imprisonment in the Criminal Code, for example. So here. Father and mother could appeal to this: “Your behavior is beyond all limits. You may be severely punished."

How long can you take an extreme measure so that it does not become a habit?

I believe that during a lifetime no more than three times. And over a very short period. My forty years of teaching experience says that this is effective only from 9 to 12 years old. Before this age or after - one harm. This only applies to boys.

Why?

The younger ones don't understand. They sometimes feel that they have been treated too harshly. As a result, parents may get a backlash: the child may grow up to be a liar, a traitor and a coward. And a sixteen-year-old teenager, on the contrary, will say: “It would be better if you kicked me than you say all this.” It is already easier for him to survive the belt than some kind of reprimand. At this stage of growing up, other means become the highest measure. From 9 to 12 years - the most spoiled age, the beginning of growing up. Then both childish theft and smoking begin. At this age, an extreme measure - once a year - may well stop the little man. It is remembered.

Orphans and girls should not be touched at all. Girls have a tender soul, and corporal punishment is imprinted for life and perceived with resentment - this is harmful to the soul. You should never beat anyone with your hand, foot or some hard object. For this, in Rus', vitamin "P" has always been used.

Rods?

Rods are superfluous, as they can leave traces. Belt. Better braided, it's soft. And it affects more psychologically than it causes real pain. Spanking and hitting are completely different concepts. Now everyone has begun to be perverted and obscene about the fact that the Church calls for beating children. The Church calls children to love, to baptize. Parents - to get married, all - to take communion and observe fasts.

The hand is heavy, the bones are fragile

Human rights activists and lawyers told Lente.ru about whether it is necessary to spank children.

Boris Altshuler, head of the public organization "Right of the Child"

Read the annual reports and reports Investigative Committee Russia. I will not give exact statistics so as not to be mistaken, but we are talking about thousands of cases of children dying from domestic violence. There, parents are not that they are regularly punished, it's just that sometimes children get bored. The hand of the parents is heavy. The battery is solid. Bones are fragile. The criminal code should have been tightened! Now law enforcement officers usually "beat on the tails." Such stories get to the prosecutor's office after the terrible happened. There is no prevention, and there was no real punishment either. It is necessary that all drunkards or even intelligent-looking people who believe that everything is possible at home should be afraid to open their fists.

But somewhere I understand the Patriarchal Commission. Excesses are possible, they may begin to find fault with the slap of a loving mom or dad. But here the position of the ROC can be useful. And law enforcement officers should be guided by the church, not fall into schizophrenia.

The commission's statement also said about Russian family values. About the need to honor the mother and father, as they love and have the right to whatever they want. It must be said that the church does not take the most rigid position on this issue. In Domostroy, for example, Father Sylvester, the confessor of Ivan the Terrible, directly wrote: “Execute your son from his youth and rest you in your old age and do not weaken the beating of the baby, otherwise he will not die with a rod, but health will be ... Crush his ribs while growing." This is also a tradition. But I want to hope that our church does not stand up for this.

Larisa Pavlova, lawyer, board member of the Parents' Committee movement

When the liberalization of the Criminal Code began, it turned out that any beatings that did not cause physical harm went unpunished. However, now the government has decided to streamline this issue and put things in order in the family. Amendments to the legislation speak about it. Now, for beatings against a minor, family members can be punished: parents or other persons living together. It turns out that if someone else hits a child on the street, nothing will happen to him, but for relatives everything is regarded differently.

Practice shows that if some article is introduced, it starts working. In 2011, an addition to the Criminal Code on child abuse appeared, aimed at people who are entrusted with their upbringing. Immediately such cases began to be initiated. But, as my practice has shown, children go to the prosecutor's office, who are incited by someone from their inner circle. These are grandparents, and parents who quarreled with each other - that is, the child becomes a hostage to bad adult relationships.

Anna Solovieva, psychologist, head of the charity fund "Protection of Children from Violence"

It happens that parents turn to us if they understand that they cannot cope with their anger towards a child. We review the situation and help. Very often, such parents themselves were subjected to physical punishment in childhood. Often these are not one-time spankings, but something regular. Many, growing up, then say: “I was flogged, I grew up a good man. I will beat my child. May he be good too!” Such adherence to family "traditions" is one of the ways of psychological self-defense. In fact, there is a very thin line between physical punishment and violence. If a parent does not know how to control their emotions, everything can end sadly.